Last Week's Mystery Building
We were surprised at how many of our Classmates correctly identified last week's building. By the way, did you note the $1785 price tag in the window? __________________________________________
Linda McAdams Johnson, Class of '65
It's the Hill's Chevrolet Building, downtown. It was across the street from the Hill's Grocery, which was purchased by Winn Dixie when Mr. Hill died. Marking it as the first Winn Dixie in Huntsville. Nearby businesses were Stockton Buick on the North and I remember Safeway? on the south, with the A&P across from the Health Department. __________________________________________
Rick Edmonds, Class of '65
I'm sure the mystery building is the Chevrolet dealership - I think it was Hill's Chevrolet, but I' wouldn't swear to the name. _______________________________
Mary Pat Hanson Riley, Class of '70
I believe the "mystery building" is the Firestone station downtown. _______________________________________________
J.R. Brooks, Class of '64
I believe it is the original Hill Chevrolet building. ________________________________________
David Mullins, Class of '64
Building in the picture is the former Hill Chevrolet building. It is located on Green Street across from Seniors' apartments. I believe that it is currently occupied by Monroe Office Equipment, and is only a few hundred feet from intersection of Walker and Meridian Sts.It was in this location prior to the move to the corner of Washington and Pratt. Good to see it again in this old photo! ____________________________________
Jimmy Preston
Hill Chevrolet - Later home of Monroe Business Equipment. _________________________________________________
Randy Goodpasture, Class of '66
Gosh, I think I'm on a roll. First the Dallas Street Armory and now the Hill Chevrolet Building. I worked there a couple of summers delivering parts. The only real rule my boss had was we could not drink cokes in the delivery truck. That was back when they came in real glass bottles. He was afraid we would put the empty bottle in the floorboard and it might roll under the brake pedal and make us wreck the truck. I'm not sure whether his concern was more for us or the truck. _________________________________________
Jim Bannister, Class of '66
The mystery location looks like Hill Chevrolet. Randy Goodpasture worked there as a parts runner and I hung out around the parts department some. ______________________________
Barbara Wilkerson Donnelly, Class of '64
This is probably an off-the-wall guess, but my first thought was that the mystery building looked like Sonny Stockton's Buick Showroom (on Meridian Street? across from the old Hill's Supermarket). My dad would drive nothing except a Buick, and I bought my first new car, an Austin Healy, from Sonny in 1967. Maybe it's another showroom. Whatever, this picture brought back some very pleasant memories of a great day spent with my dad. I'll never forget him saying, "This car looks just like it was made for you, Pete." I don't know why, but he just sometimes called me Pete for some reason! Those were the times I remember best. My mother just about croaked because it was a convertible, but my very strict dad loved it! Go figure! I lost him less than two months later and always loved that little car because he loved it so much. ________________________________________
Terry Davis, Class of '64
The place is Hill Chevrolet. ______________________________________________
More On The Armory Or Forget About Spam, This Was A Scam by Collins (CE) Wynn Class of '64
It was interesting to see the photograph of the Armory on Dallas Street in one of our recent issues. As with other classmates it brought back memories for me of our graduation night and the party we had there.
As, I think, most everyone knows my Dad was a Huntsville Police Officer and as such he often worked security type jobs after his normal duty hours. In the mid-1950s one of his extra jobs was at the "rasling" matches held at the Armory that several have commented on. The names mentioned in earlier issues bring back memories does anyone remember Gorgeous George? This was true southern showmanship in its most basic form. Oddly enough the thing I remember most is the thick blue cloud of cigarette smoke that hung over the entire auditorium everyone in the room was smoking something in amongst all the hollering and screaming it was a real circus and a true cash cow. Believe me, they had police protection present for good reason. As a side note and piece of meaningless trivia, some years later I worked as the Ring Announcer for a couple of 'rasling' events there at the Dallas Street Armory and had a minor business relationship with the promoters Gulas/Welch Enterprises of Nashville,
From memory I can recall bits of information about the armory that some may find interesting. Some of the Old Huntsville websites probably have more. For instance:
The armory was built by the WPA (Works Progress Administration?) in the mid and late 1930s and it was the original home of the Headquarters of the 1169th Engineer Group. Although there were National Guard units in Huntsville from about 1909 onward, I don't know where they met before the Dallas Street Armory was constructed.
In 1959 or so the 1169th moved to a "new" facility on the west side of South Parkway a mile or so north of Airport Road. The armory was named Fort Raymond T. Jones after a former commander who also happened to be a part of the Jones engineering family of Huntsville and Jones Valley. They remained there until, maybe, 1990 when they moved to another "new" facility farther south - still on the west side of the Parkway near Green Mountain Road (?).
After the 1169th moved out in 1959, the Dallas Street Armory was occupied by two units, the 279th Signal Battalion and Company A, 20th Special Forces Group. Late one night in 1968 a fire broke out in the rear portion of the building where some electrical maintenance work had been going on and totally destroyed it. Because it was small and had little equipment, the Special Forces unit was allowed to remain in the front, undamaged portion of the building and everyone else was scattered to temporary facilities within a 50-mile radius of Huntsville.
Over the next few years a new armory was designed and constructed on south Lehman Ferry Road on the west side of the main runway of the by then inactive Huntsville-Madison County Airport. Eventually the scattered units were drawn back into Huntsville and along with the Special Forces unit, relocated to the "new" armory. The Special Forces unit (now Headquarters, 1st Battalion, 20th Special Forces Group - a decorated veteran unit of the war on terrorism after spending a year and a half in Afghanistan and, I suspect, with plans for other adventures in the near future as well) was later moved into the armory on south Parkway vacated by the 1169th Engineer Group as described above.
After all these moves and relocation's settled down, the City of Huntsville gained title to the then Dallas Street Armory and rehabilitated the facility to serve as a recreational center. I understand it is still in use today which proves that not everything has to be new to have value. Maintenance dollars and labor hours expended on old buildings are often well spent.
As the manager of the Dallas Street Armory in 1967 and 1968 I unknowingly watched a scam as it was perpetrated on many of my friends in the Huntsville area I suspect some of you reading this may have been victims as well One day this guy blew into town who presented himself as a rock and roll show promoter who wanted to rent the armory. Hey, fine with me, just sign the contract and cough up the cash and you can have whatever kind of show you want. I mean, it was just business, you pay you play. So the guy paid up (in advance which is always a good policy) and started advertising and selling tickets to the big show. His lead act was supposedly one of the hottest bands of the day whose name I cannot now quite pull out of the fog not the Beach Boys or the Monkees but something close, perhaps the Turtles. Ticket sales were dynamite and the cash was rolling in. The day of the show the facility was set up and the stage was erected and ready to go by 2 pm. In hindsight, the fact that nothing else happened (no roadies, no equipment, no light guy, no sound guy, etc) should have tipped us off to what was happening but, besides being young, stupid, and gullible, we weren't paying close enough attention. Around 7pm, after filling the building up with probably 2,000 16 to 20 year old party animals and collecting all the cash he could carry, the guy tells me he is going to the airport to pick up the band and leaves abruptly through the front door, predictably, never to be seen again. It turned out to be a bummer night about an hour later after I made the announcement that we had all been taken, I had to call the police to get the building cleared. For me it was a hard lesson well learned I viewed everything from then on with a healthy dose of skepticism and still do. To the best of my knowledge the guy was never identified or caught, at least not in Huntsville.
I was glad to see the Armory building still in use. I had a chance to visit with a long time personal friend of mine, Dallas Fanning, the other day at a civic event in Anniston. Since Dallas is a senior City of Huntsville official I inquired about the status of the old armory. He mentioned to me that the City was installing a new facade over the original sandstone block to make the building more appealing but other than that it is still sound and the City intends to use it for years into the future. ________________________________________
Tommy Towery, Class of '64
My most vivid memory of this building is from 1958 or so and it involves my brother Don. Early one evening we got a phone call from Hill Chevrolet and they asked to speak to Don Towery. Neither he nor any of us knew what was going on, but it turned out that he had entered a drawing for a give-away there and he had won. It was for a pedal car version of the 1958 Chevy Crovet. We brought it home but he was 15 and I was 12 and we were both too old for a pedal car, even though it was neat. I sat it in front of the TV and sat in it like I was at a drive-in movie the first night. We finally ran an ad in the paper and sold it for $50 I think, which shows what it was worth back then. I'd love to have it to put on E-Bay today. ______________________________________________________ |