Terry L. Vandiver

March 12, 1946 - Aug. 15, 2001

    We were saddened to learn this week of the death of one of our own - Terry Vandiver. Terry was a member of the Class of 1964. Many of us were friends with Terry and will miss his company.   The above greeting was made by Terry in my 1964 Yearbook. The following was printed in the August 16, 2001 issue of The Huntsville Times.

   Terry Lee Vandiver of Hampton Cove, a U.S. Army Missile Command chief, died Wednesday. He was 55.
    Mr. Vandiver worked in the Composites and Structures Division of the Research Development and Engineering Center at MICOM. He was past president of the University of Alabama in Huntsville Alumni Association.
    Survivors include his wife, Elain Vandiver; two daughters, Melissa Vandiver of Atlanta and Michelle Goddard of Meridianville; and one son, David Vandiver of Auburn.
    Visitation will be today from 5 to 7 p.m. at Laughlin Service Funeral Home. The funeral will be Friday at noon at Laughlin with Gary Bradley officiating. Burial will be in Maple Hill Cemetery.

    If you want to leave your own memories of Terry then please click on the
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"Well, back when I was in school
we had to hand type
each page of the newspaper"
by Tommy Towery

  As I sit at my computer this week I am constantly reminded that this is the week in history that marks only the 20th anniversary of the introduction of the IBM Personal Computer.  I was on temporary duty in Alaska when it was previewed, and I went downtown just to see one.  My first IBM PC did not come with a monitor, had a 1.2Mb floppy disk only (no hard drive) and did not have a mouse or Windows.  It cost me $1,600.  I later added a 10Mb hard drive for $399 extra.  I had used an Apple II and a Heathkit computer prior to that.  Even then, the word processing and simple graphics programs were like magic to me. To be able to make mistakes, and go back and correct them before you applied them to paper was impossible to fathom when our generation was writing English papers in high school.
    I think back to the Lee Traveller days at Lee in 1961-1964 and remember what we went through to publish a paper way back then in the dark ages.  I could start off naming all my classmates who worked on the paper with me then, but I would surely leave someone out and I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.  You all know who you are, so take a bow.  We each typed up our stories and then submitted them. I do have to mention one person who did a lion's share of the production work back then, and that was Bob Walker (in the photo above).  Bob had won the contest looking for the fastest typist in Mrs. Parks' class and so he was offered the position of typist for the paper. He had to copy our stories onto a stencil sheet that we would run off on the Gestate memograph machine.  That monster was then state of the art, compared to the "spirit duplicators".  You remember them?  Those were the things that produced the purple sheets that all the tests and assignments were printed on. Anyway, the Gestate used ink; black ink that would get on everything.  The stencil had to have all the words typed on it correctly, leaving room above the articles for the headlines.  If Bob made a mistake, he had to stop typing and apply stuff like fingernail polish to the stencil and wait for it to dry before he could continue typing. To do the headlines we had stylus pens and templates and we hand lettered each headline, trying on-so-hard not to tear the stencil.  Then if we wanted lines or any type of graphics, we had to hand-draw them onto the stylus and hope again that we did not make a mistake. Finally the stencil was attached to the Gestate and the motor was fired up. We felt lucky that we had an electric one and not a hand-crank model.  After we ran it about one minute, we could then set the counter for the number of copies we wanted and then start feeding the paper through. 
    As soon as the front page was printed, we took off the stencil and put on the one for the second page.  We turned over all the pages and ran them through a second time to print the back.  We had to repeat this front-back process for each page of the paper, trying hard to make sure that we had as many page three and four as we did one and two.  If the paper jammed or the ink ran out, then we had to go back and do it all again.
    Did you ever wonder why the gossip page was never numbered?  Well, it is time to clear my journalistic soul.  We did not number the pages, because we called them inserts. They were made as inserts because the Alabama High School Press Association, an organization that rated us each year, did not approve of gossip pages.  Our problem was - gossip sold papers!  So we cheated the system by pulling out the inserts on the papers we sent off to have judged each year.  They only got the real news and not the gossip. We got good ratings, and good sales too.
    The final part of the production process was to form assembly lines with several staplers and staple the pages together and insert the gossip pages before we took them off to the homerooms to sell, usually just before school was out.
          Later when we went to offset press and took the proofs to White's Printing in Five Points, it seemed like a technology breakthrough equal to the advent of the personal computer.  We just typed up the stories, added what photos we wanted, and took them to White's and they typeset them for us, did the printing, and delivered the finished product.
    This week will feature the front page of an issue of Lee's Traveller that first appeared on April 10, 1963.  A different page will be featured for the next five weeks, so you will have to check back each week to see the whole paper.
    As a consequence of Bob working on the paper with me, we shared a room when we went to the University of Alabama for a newspaper workshop.  We got to know each other pretty good on that trip, and when we came back to Huntsville, we started running around together.  We became the best of friends and still remain that today.
          For those who like contests, here's a two parter for you.  Where did the name Traveller come from that gave the paper its name?  And the second part is which one of your classmates named the paper Traveller? I may be the only one who knows those answers.


Do You Remember?

    Collins' (C.E. Wynn) trivia has received such good reaction (mostly telling him that he is wrong) that I have elected to add a few questions myself.   Many of these came up during the mini-reunion (that's a pun I guess, many-mini) at Carol Jeans house while we sat around and played the old "Do you remember...?" game.  We all seem to like that game so much, I have decided to add a place on our website for it weekly.  It doesn't have to be in the form of a quiz or contest, you might just want to send me a little e-mail about something you remember and want others to as well. Thus launches the "Do You Remember" column.
    I have a growing list of questions, and will spread them out during the months to come if I have to. Collins will also be sending another list.  You are welcome to come up with your own. My list is more Huntsville trivia and not so much just Lee, but here goes.  Please understand that I am using the terms that were politically correct back in the 1960's even though they may fail that qualification today.

Okay, Generals. Do you remember...

1.       ... the names of the two "white" taxicab companies in Huntsville?
2.          ... the name of the "colored" cab company?
3.          ... the two downtown theatres (before the Martin was built)?
4.          ... the first movie shown at the opening of the Martin?
5.          ... the movie with Huntsville roots had its Southern Gala Premier Opening at
              the Martin?
6.          ... the name of the "colored" theatre?
7.        ... the name of the second-run theatre in West Huntsville?
8.           ... the names of the two competing hamburger places on the North Side of the
              Courthouse Square that sold "little" hamburgers?
9.           ... the nicknames of Huntsville High's and Butler High's teams?
10.      ...  the name of the "colored" high school when we were at Lee?

Answers are at the Left Bottom of this page.

From Our Mailbag

Subject:         20 Questions
  Date:         Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:56:53 -0500
  From:        "Robert Alverson" <BobAlverson@peoplepc.com>
    Mullins was actually located on the corner of 5th Street and Stevens Avenue. 5th Avenue is now Governors Drive. Hadn't thought about Henry's in a long time. Keep up the good work
Bob Alverson

Subject:      Website
  Date:         Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:10:40 -0500
  From:         Gail W Rogers <gailandronnierogers@juno.com>
 

    I remember the English teacher named Monroe being a Miss or what was known back then as and "old maid".  I also remember getting grades of 120, 125, etc from her and my mother questioning them....Miss Monroe responded that if we complimented her hair, dress, etc. and other such things (I do not remember what all...does anyone?) that we got extra points!!!!!!!! It seemed that I had learned all the things to do to get extra points and did them all.  Needless to say, my A+++++ grades in Miss Monroe's class did not impress my parents!
    As I have told you before, you can put what I know about computers in a thimble and have room left over!...But I do have a question/comment...I have noticed that I can log on to the web site (is that the correct terminology?) and be told that I am visitor 59 (for example)...I can go to the email address page and go back and be visitor 62...then I can go to another page and when I go back to the original page I am visitor 65.  In my ignorance this seems that the counter is giving an incorrect actual visitor count, if during one visit I am counted 3 different times.  Hope that in my ignorance I am making it clear what I am commenting/questioning.
    As so many others, I am enjoying the web site now that I have learned how to access it...admire and appreciate your work on it...THANKS!  Also, thanks for finding a new correct address for Jimmy McBride for me.
    CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR MARRIAGE AND I WISH YOU MANY, MANY, MANY HAPPY YEARS TOGETHER.

Gail Woodard Rogers

(Editor's Note: You are correct about the numbers being different than you would expect if they were for "visitors".  The count is for Page Hits, not visitors.  I have another counter that is not shown that counts not only page hits, but counts only one visit per day, no matter how many times you visit the site. It also tells me what "browser" you use so that I can make the site friendly for the most popular software.  I do not call them visitors per week, but hits.)

Subject:         Mullins Drive In
  Date:         Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:32:30 -0500
  From:        "Linda Walker" <lbwalker@usit.net>

Tommy, I don't think the original Mullins was at the corner of 5th Avenue and McKinley.  I lived on McKinley and it was one block from Oakwood Avenue.  I think it was located at 5th Avenue and McCullough.  Let me know if I'm correct.
Linda Beal Walker

(Editor's Note:  I lived on McCullough in 1960, right next door to Ray Walker and it was not on that street.  I also agree with Bob and think that Stephens is the correct street. Speaking of Ray Walker, he and I and a bunch of others used to catch the bus to Lee right in front of his house when I was in the 9th grade.  It would be almost the last stop after coming from the mountain and going through the housing project at the end of Oakwook and backing up to the mountain. I didn't have to ride very far, but I remember the bus rides and now it seems like it was a fun way to go.)

Subject:         Kudos for the website tonight!
  Date:         Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:24:58 EDT
  From:        Barbdonn13@aol.com

    Just when I thought the website couldn't possibly be any better, I visited tonight! The stories were just wonderful, and I particularly enjoyed C. E.'s little quiz. Thanks, C.E.! The story about Mullins was good, and I look forward to one day being in Huntsville when another impromptu gathering occurs. I just remembered something funny after having read C.E.'s answers.
    Regarding Miss Monroe: My brother (who is almost 11 years older than I) had Miss (or Mrs.) Monroe for a teacher, also! He remembers, as do I, one of her favorite expressions: "You're a cute little booger, but you just don't work." When she said it, it sounded more like "You're a cute little booguh, but you just don't woik." I seem to remember her saying it to J.R. on more than one occasion.  Maybe it wasn't J.R., because it's difficult to imagine J.R. ever goofing off! NOT! (Sorry in advance, J.R., if it wasn't you!) My brother, Don, used to catch mice for her for a quarter per mouse. She would say "Mistuh Wilkerson, there's a mouse in the cloakroom. Please remove it."
Unfortunately for Don, he got greedy and took to bringing a mouse or two to school to plant. She was a very sharp lady and soon caught on. "Mistuh Wilkerson" really caught it, to say the least! She also would say, "Write me a hundred woids, little boy, " if she caught someone talking. You could, of course, circumvent this punishment by something so simple as bringing her an apple. She was definitely a pushover for flattery! Miss Monroe was a very, very, very tiny lady. She drove a large (Chrysler or Cadillac?), dark car, and you could barely see the top of her head over the steering wheel. If you waved to her while she was behind the wheel, she ALWAYS responded by "waving" back -- her wave was simply to extend her index finger straight up into the air, while NEVER removing her hand from the wheel nor her attention from the road. Miss Monroe was probably the smallest teacher in stature I ever had, but she more than made up for it by her actions. She has occupied a giant place in my memories, as have all the rest of you guys.

Subject:         Mastin Lake
  Date:         Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:41:39 -0500
  From:        "SOLON JAMES" <glennj1500@msn.com>
Hi Tommy,
     First of all Marie and I had a great time seeing everyone at Mullin's Saturday night. And thanks to Carol Jean and Dub for having us over till the wee hours.  Now a comment on C.E.'s list of questions. Part of Mastin Lake was drained. Lakewood and part of the Parkway were built on the land that was covered by it. But a small part of it still remains and it happens to be behind our house! Phil Bell's father bought the property it is on and built a huge house. The den of the house is built over the little creek that runs out of the lake.  A little history about Mastin Lake. The dam, that was built to form the lake, was where the VFW at the corner of Memorial Parkway and Sparkman Drive is. The water in the lake went north to Meadow Hills Subdivision. I don't know when the dam was torn down, but it had to be before Memorial Parkway was built in the early 50's. We are looking forward to seeing more classmates at the next Mini-reunion.

Glenn James 'Class of 1965'

From:             Huntsville, AL
E-mail:            jsharpdd681@home.com
Johnny Sharp
Monday, 8/13/01, 8:26 PM
 
    The original location of Mullins Drive Inn was at the corner of Stevens Ave. and Andrew Jackson Way! There is no 5th Ave. anywhere in Huntsville now. It was changed to Governors Drive many moons ago. (nowhere near five points) Edna and I have really enjoyed keeping up with everyone here at the website. We would've been at the Mullins mini reunion if it hadn't been held at same time as my annual company cookout. (Bummer!) Keep up the great work!

Subject:         Web Archives
  Date:         Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:10:04 -0500
  From:        "Susanne J. Schlette" <Susanne.Schlette@WBP.ORG>

I'm not exactly great at working with computers, but I've been looking at the articles in the Lee Web Archives since I didn't start reading this until recently.  I can get all of these except the Jim White story and the Dwight Kephart picture.  When the Homestead search page comes up should I do something with that?  I tried to put those titles in the search box, but can't seem to get that to work.  What do I need to do? 
Thanks,
Susie W. Schlette
 
(Editor's Note: I've gone back and corrected the links.  They were linked to the right
pages, but homestead wasn't sending you there.  So I resaved the pages as a
different name, relinked the archives to the new pages and now it works. I need folks like you to keep me straight.  I can't find all the errors myself, and in the computer world, what works on my computer may not work the same on your's.)

Name:  Janice Lusk Blaise
E-mail:  blaiser54@aol.com

Hi Tommy, what a great job you are doing with the website! I am really enjoying it. Loved hearing about the visit to Mullins. I remember walking there from the football field when we were in Lee Junior High. Thanks for the memories!
Janice

Subject:         slaw dog
  Date:         Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:43:31 -0500
  From:        "Jim Mcbride" <jmcbridemail@mindspring.com>
Hi Tommy, All this talk about Zesto and Mullin's is making me hungry. Once upon a time, Andrew Jackson Way was 5th Street. Not to be confused with 5th Ave. in West Huntsville which is now indeed Governor's Drive. Mullin's was at the corner of 5th Street (Andy Jackson Way)  and Stevens Ave. The Huntsville Times "paper shack" was across the street on 5th next to the 5th Street Barber and Beauty Shop now (Jackson Way Style Shop). The name has changed but the gossip there is still good. Zesto was the
first stop on my paper route and I never collected one dime from them. I may have been the only twelve year old with a tab back then. At the end of the week I usually owed them more than the $.40 the paper cost. I'm sure you remember the five and dime Mr.
Goodson had right behind Zesto. Greg Patterson's Dad owned a dry cleaning business in the next block down from Mullin's old location. "Gobby" Osborne ran the Shell station on that block. I could go on and on.  By the way, Mullin's claims no kinship to Connie Mullins. Where are you Connie? we miss you. Carol Jean and I have discovered that between us we can remember almost everything about Dallas Mill Village so you can check my facts with her.
Best wishes to all. Jim
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"Well, back when I was in school
we had to hand type
each page of the newspaper"
by Tommy Towery

  As I sit at my computer this week I am constantly reminded that this is the week in history that marks only the 20th anniversary of the introduction of the IBM Personal Computer.  I was on temporary duty in Alaska when it was previewed, and I went downtown just to see one.  My first IBM PC did not come with a monitor, had a 1.2Mb floppy disk only (no hard drive) and did not have a mouse or Windows.  It cost me $1,600.  I later added a 10Mb hard drive for $399 extra.  I had used an Apple II and a Heathkit computer prior to that.  Even then, the word processing and simple graphics programs were like magic to me. To be able to make mistakes, and go back and correct them before you applied them to paper was impossible to fathom when our generation was writing English papers in high school.
    I think back to the Lee Traveller days at Lee in 1961-1964 and remember what we went through to publish a paper way back then in the dark ages.  I could start off naming all my classmates who worked on the paper with me then, but I would surely leave someone out and I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.  You all know who you are, so take a bow.  We each typed up our stories and then submitted them. I do have to mention one person who did a lion's share of the production work back then, and that was Bob Walker (in the photo above).  Bob had won the contest looking for the fastest typist in Mrs. Parks' class and so he was offered the position of typist for the paper. He had to copy our stories onto a stencil sheet that we would run off on the Gestate memograph machine.  That monster was then state of the art, compared to the "spirit duplicators".  You remember them?  Those were the things that produced the purple sheets that all the tests and assignments were printed on. Anyway, the Gestate used ink; black ink that would get on everything.  The stencil had to have all the words typed on it correctly, leaving room above the articles for the headlines.  If Bob made a mistake, he had to stop typing and apply stuff like fingernail polish to the stencil and wait for it to dry before he could continue typing. To do the headlines we had stylus pens and templates and we hand lettered each headline, trying on-so-hard not to tear the stencil.  Then if we wanted lines or any type of graphics, we had to hand-draw them onto the stylus and hope again that we did not make a mistake. Finally the stencil was attached to the Gestate and the motor was fired up. We felt lucky that we had an electric one and not a hand-crank model.  After we ran it about one minute, we could then set the counter for the number of copies we wanted and then start feeding the paper through. 
    As soon as the front page was printed, we took off the stencil and put on the one for the second page.  We turned over all the pages and ran them through a second time to print the back.  We had to repeat this front-back process for each page of the paper, trying hard to make sure that we had as many page three and four as we did one and two.  If the paper jammed or the ink ran out, then we had to go back and do it all again.
    Did you ever wonder why the gossip page was never numbered?  Well, it is time to clear my journalistic soul.  We did not number the pages, because we called them inserts. They were made as inserts because the Alabama High School Press Association, an organization that rated us each year, did not approve of gossip pages.  Our problem was - gossip sold papers!  So we cheated the system by pulling out the inserts on the papers we sent off to have judged each year.  They only got the real news and not the gossip. We got good ratings, and good sales too.
    The final part of the production process was to form assembly lines with several staplers and staple the pages together and insert the gossip pages before we took them off to the homerooms to sell, usually just before school was out.
          Later when we went to offset press and took the proofs to White's Printing in Five Points, it seemed like a technology breakthrough equal to the advent of the personal computer.  We just typed up the stories, added what photos we wanted, and took them to White's and they typeset them for us, did the printing, and delivered the finished product.
    This week will feature the front page of an issue of Lee's Traveller that first appeared on April 10, 1963.  A different page will be featured for the next five weeks, so you will have to check back each week to see the whole paper.
    As a consequence of Bob working on the paper with me, we shared a room when we went to the University of Alabama for a newspaper workshop.  We got to know each other pretty good on that trip, and when we came back to Huntsville, we started running around together.  We became the best of friends and still remain that today.
          For those who like contests, here's a two parter for you.  Where did the name Traveller come from that gave the paper its name?  And the second part is which one of your classmates named the paper Traveller? I may be the only one who knows those answers.


Do You Remember?

    Collins' (C.E. Wynn) trivia has received such good reaction (mostly telling him that he is wrong) that I have elected to add a few questions myself.   Many of these came up during the mini-reunion (that's a pun I guess, many-mini) at Carol Jeans house while we sat around and played the old "Do you remember...?" game.  We all seem to like that game so much, I have decided to add a place on our website for it weekly.  It doesn't have to be in the form of a quiz or contest, you might just want to send me a little e-mail about something you remember and want others to as well. Thus launches the "Do You Remember" column.
    I have a growing list of questions, and will spread them out during the months to come if I have to. Collins will also be sending another list.  You are welcome to come up with your own. My list is more Huntsville trivia and not so much just Lee, but here goes.  Please understand that I am using the terms that were politically correct back in the 1960's even though they may fail that qualification today.

Okay, Generals. Do you remember...

1.       ... the names of the two "white" taxicab companies in Huntsville?
2.          ... the name of the "colored" cab company?
3.          ... the two downtown theatres (before the Martin was built)?
4.          ... the first movie shown at the opening of the Martin?
5.          ... the movie with Huntsville roots had its Southern Gala Premier Opening at
              the Martin?
6.          ... the name of the "colored" theatre?
7.        ... the name of the second-run theatre in West Huntsville?
8.           ... the names of the two competing hamburger places on the North Side of the
              Courthouse Square that sold "little" hamburgers?
9.           ... the nicknames of Huntsville High's and Butler High's teams?
10.      ...  the name of the "colored" high school when we were at Lee?

Answers are at the Left Bottom of this page.

From Our Mailbag

Subject:         20 Questions
  Date:         Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:56:53 -0500
  From:        "Robert Alverson" <BobAlverson@peoplepc.com>
    Mullins was actually located on the corner of 5th Street and Stevens Avenue. 5th Avenue is now Governors Drive. Hadn't thought about Henry's in a long time. Keep up the good work
Bob Alverson

Subject:      Website
  Date:         Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:10:40 -0500
  From:         Gail W Rogers <gailandronnierogers@juno.com>
 

    I remember the English teacher named Monroe being a Miss or what was known back then as and "old maid".  I also remember getting grades of 120, 125, etc from her and my mother questioning them....Miss Monroe responded that if we complimented her hair, dress, etc. and other such things (I do not remember what all...does anyone?) that we got extra points!!!!!!!! It seemed that I had learned all the things to do to get extra points and did them all.  Needless to say, my A+++++ grades in Miss Monroe's class did not impress my parents!
    As I have told you before, you can put what I know about computers in a thimble and have room left over!...But I do have a question/comment...I have noticed that I can log on to the web site (is that the correct terminology?) and be told that I am visitor 59 (for example)...I can go to the email address page and go back and be visitor 62...then I can go to another page and when I go back to the original page I am visitor 65.  In my ignorance this seems that the counter is giving an incorrect actual visitor count, if during one visit I am counted 3 different times.  Hope that in my ignorance I am making it clear what I am commenting/questioning.
    As so many others, I am enjoying the web site now that I have learned how to access it...admire and appreciate your work on it...THANKS!  Also, thanks for finding a new correct address for Jimmy McBride for me.
    CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR MARRIAGE AND I WISH YOU MANY, MANY, MANY HAPPY YEARS TOGETHER.

Gail Woodard Rogers

(Editor's Note: You are correct about the numbers being different than you would expect if they were for "visitors".  The count is for Page Hits, not visitors.  I have another counter that is not shown that counts not only page hits, but counts only one visit per day, no matter how many times you visit the site. It also tells me what "browser" you use so that I can make the site friendly for the most popular software.  I do not call them visitors per week, but hits.)

Subject:         Mullins Drive In
  Date:         Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:32:30 -0500
  From:        "Linda Walker" <lbwalker@usit.net>

Tommy, I don't think the original Mullins was at the corner of 5th Avenue and McKinley.  I lived on McKinley and it was one block from Oakwood Avenue.  I think it was located at 5th Avenue and McCullough.  Let me know if I'm correct.
Linda Beal Walker

(Editor's Note:  I lived on McCullough in 1960, right next door to Ray Walker and it was not on that street.  I also agree with Bob and think that Stephens is the correct street. Speaking of Ray Walker, he and I and a bunch of others used to catch the bus to Lee right in front of his house when I was in the 9th grade.  It would be almost the last stop after coming from the mountain and going through the housing project at the end of Oakwook and backing up to the mountain. I didn't have to ride very far, but I remember the bus rides and now it seems like it was a fun way to go.)

Subject:         Kudos for the website tonight!
  Date:         Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:24:58 EDT
  From:        Barbdonn13@aol.com

    Just when I thought the website couldn't possibly be any better, I visited tonight! The stories were just wonderful, and I particularly enjoyed C. E.'s little quiz. Thanks, C.E.! The story about Mullins was good, and I look forward to one day being in Huntsville when another impromptu gathering occurs. I just remembered something funny after having read C.E.'s answers.
    Regarding Miss Monroe: My brother (who is almost 11 years older than I) had Miss (or Mrs.) Monroe for a teacher, also! He remembers, as do I, one of her favorite expressions: "You're a cute little booger, but you just don't work." When she said it, it sounded more like "You're a cute little booguh, but you just don't woik." I seem to remember her saying it to J.R. on more than one occasion.  Maybe it wasn't J.R., because it's difficult to imagine J.R. ever goofing off! NOT! (Sorry in advance, J.R., if it wasn't you!) My brother, Don, used to catch mice for her for a quarter per mouse. She would say "Mistuh Wilkerson, there's a mouse in the cloakroom. Please remove it."
Unfortunately for Don, he got greedy and took to bringing a mouse or two to school to plant. She was a very sharp lady and soon caught on. "Mistuh Wilkerson" really caught it, to say the least! She also would say, "Write me a hundred woids, little boy, " if she caught someone talking. You could, of course, circumvent this punishment by something so simple as bringing her an apple. She was definitely a pushover for flattery! Miss Monroe was a very, very, very tiny lady. She drove a large (Chrysler or Cadillac?), dark car, and you could barely see the top of her head over the steering wheel. If you waved to her while she was behind the wheel, she ALWAYS responded by "waving" back -- her wave was simply to extend her index finger straight up into the air, while NEVER removing her hand from the wheel nor her attention from the road. Miss Monroe was probably the smallest teacher in stature I ever had, but she more than made up for it by her actions. She has occupied a giant place in my memories, as have all the rest of you guys.

Subject:         Mastin Lake
  Date:         Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:41:39 -0500
  From:        "SOLON JAMES" <glennj1500@msn.com>
Hi Tommy,
     First of all Marie and I had a great time seeing everyone at Mullin's Saturday night. And thanks to Carol Jean and Dub for having us over till the wee hours.  Now a comment on C.E.'s list of questions. Part of Mastin Lake was drained. Lakewood and part of the Parkway were built on the land that was covered by it. But a small part of it still remains and it happens to be behind our house! Phil Bell's father bought the property it is on and built a huge house. The den of the house is built over the little creek that runs out of the lake.  A little history about Mastin Lake. The dam, that was built to form the lake, was where the VFW at the corner of Memorial Parkway and Sparkman Drive is. The water in the lake went north to Meadow Hills Subdivision. I don't know when the dam was torn down, but it had to be before Memorial Parkway was built in the early 50's. We are looking forward to seeing more classmates at the next Mini-reunion.

Glenn James 'Class of 1965'

From:             Huntsville, AL
E-mail:            jsharpdd681@home.com
Johnny Sharp
Monday, 8/13/01, 8:26 PM
 
    The original location of Mullins Drive Inn was at the corner of Stevens Ave. and Andrew Jackson Way! There is no 5th Ave. anywhere in Huntsville now. It was changed to Governors Drive many moons ago. (nowhere near five points) Edna and I have really enjoyed keeping up with everyone here at the website. We would've been at the Mullins mini reunion if it hadn't been held at same time as my annual company cookout. (Bummer!) Keep up the great work!

Subject:         Web Archives
  Date:         Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:10:04 -0500
  From:        "Susanne J. Schlette" <Susanne.Schlette@WBP.ORG>

I'm not exactly great at working with computers, but I've been looking at the articles in the Lee Web Archives since I didn't start reading this until recently.  I can get all of these except the Jim White story and the Dwight Kephart picture.  When the Homestead search page comes up should I do something with that?  I tried to put those titles in the search box, but can't seem to get that to work.  What do I need to do? 
Thanks,
Susie W. Schlette
 
(Editor's Note: I've gone back and corrected the links.  They were linked to the right
pages, but homestead wasn't sending you there.  So I resaved the pages as a
different name, relinked the archives to the new pages and now it works. I need folks like you to keep me straight.  I can't find all the errors myself, and in the computer world, what works on my computer may not work the same on your's.)

Name:  Janice Lusk Blaise
E-mail:  blaiser54@aol.com

Hi Tommy, what a great job you are doing with the website! I am really enjoying it. Loved hearing about the visit to Mullins. I remember walking there from the football field when we were in Lee Junior High. Thanks for the memories!
Janice

Subject:         slaw dog
  Date:         Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:43:31 -0500
  From:        "Jim Mcbride" <jmcbridemail@mindspring.com>
Hi Tommy, All this talk about Zesto and Mullin's is making me hungry. Once upon a time, Andrew Jackson Way was 5th Street. Not to be confused with 5th Ave. in West Huntsville which is now indeed Governor's Drive. Mullin's was at the corner of 5th Street (Andy Jackson Way)  and Stevens Ave. The Huntsville Times "paper shack" was across the street on 5th next to the 5th Street Barber and Beauty Shop now (Jackson Way Style Shop). The name has changed but the gossip there is still good. Zesto was the
first stop on my paper route and I never collected one dime from them. I may have been the only twelve year old with a tab back then. At the end of the week I usually owed them more than the $.40 the paper cost. I'm sure you remember the five and dime Mr.
Goodson had right behind Zesto. Greg Patterson's Dad owned a dry cleaning business in the next block down from Mullin's old location. "Gobby" Osborne ran the Shell station on that block. I could go on and on.  By the way, Mullin's claims no kinship to Connie Mullins. Where are you Connie? we miss you. Carol Jean and I have discovered that between us we can remember almost everything about Dallas Mill Village so you can check my facts with her.
Best wishes to all. Jim
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Editor:Tommy Towery                                                        http://www.leealumni.com
Class of 1964                           Page Hits This Issue     e-mail ttowery@memphis.edu
Do You Remember...
Huntsville Trivia Answers

1.          Crescent and Drake
2.          Deluxe
3.          The Lyric and The Grand
4.          "Wild River" (about the
          TVA project)
5.          "I Aim At The Stars"
          (about Von Braun)
6.          The Princess
7.          The Center
8.          Krystal and Snow White
9.          Panthers and Rebels
10.      Council

Disagreements or corrections accepted by the editor, who came up with these questions and answers.

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   From:      Aiken, SC
   E-mail:    wdeason@attglobal.net
   Year of Graduation:  1964
     
   Just found the web site and was pleased to see some old friends in the reunion photos. I have been away from Huntsville since graduation and have lost contact with most of my classmates. Its good to see the old photos (and new ones too). I noticed that C.E. Winn had a question about Henry's. Well, it was not only a hamburger joint, but a 15 cent hamburger joint with 10 cent fries. Now that was a long time ago.
  I 'm nterested in the next reunion and any possibility of getting an address book or other information available about the members of our class.

Wayne Deason

(Editor's Note: We have the address book from the last reunion, along with photos and the video tape for sale in the Souvenir Shop that can be found by clicking on the button at the top of the page.)

Subject:         20 Questions
  Date:         Wed, 15 Aug 2001
  From:         "PUBLIC DEFENDER                       LINCOLN COUNTY" <lincolnpd17th@cafes.net>

T-Tommy, as I have told you before, I really enjoy the web-site. I don't think I have seen many from Lee since graduation so I look forward to the stories and updates. I meant to send this Sunday when I first saw it, but anyway here is my best stab at the twenty questions.

1. Mullins was in fact first located on the West side of 5th Street between Stevens and Humes avenues. (This really predates all of us) It later moved to the SE corner of 5th Street and Stevens Avenue. This is the location we probably most remember.

6. Coach Myhand lived in the two story house on the corner of Oakwood and 5th street. His wife had been a nurse for the old Dallas Mill and they were furnished that house. When the mill sold the houses the Myhands bought theirs. We lived about 1/2 block east of the coach.

10. Henry's took up the whole block on Oakwood from Dallas street to what was then 4th Street. Later it was renamed Dement St. We once lived on the corner of Dement and Halsey. Also the big house that was torn down at the Henry's site was once used for the first grade for Rison School in the late 30's and early 40's.

11. About the Governor's visit. Do you remember the announcement made before his appearance? It was something to the effect that even if we did not agree with his politics, he is the governor and should be shown the respect of that office. How times have changed.

14. Not sure about this one but I thought it was a KAYO station. I seem to remember them selling recycled motor oil there.

15. It was Miss Elizabeth Monroe. Remember her buying a brand new black 1958 Chevrolet. I think after retiring from the city system she taught in the County system for a short while.

20. Mastin Lake was still in existence  at least into the 70's. T.J. Bell (I think), Phil Bell's father built a home there and had a little footbridge built over what is the start of Pinhook creek. There was an old cemetery on the hill above the lake that had a least one revolutionary war veteran buried there. Used to frog gig and swim in the shallow lake and the "blue hole" above it."

As far as the rest, I either don't remember (frequent senior moments) or agree. Keep up the good work. I look forward to the updates and even try to check it when out of town.

Mickey Campbell.

From:    Anderson, SC
E-mail: barbdonn13@aol.com
Barbara (Wilkerson) Donnelly
Tuesday, 8/14/01, 11:30 AM
 
   Hi, Glad to see some entries. Does anyone remember the cleaners that used to be next door to Zesto? My mother worked there when I went to East Clinton School. I used to walk to school with my older cousin who would stop by for me in the mornings. I can't remember the name of the cleaners.
   She also worked around the cornerfrom Star Supermarket at the cleaners on the corner going towards the mountain. I think it was called Sterling Cleaners. I think it's still there. There used to be a little cafe next door. I think it had a lady's name, like Sue's Cafe. Maybe not. I'm old, and like a good friend of mine says, "I just make it up as I go." It certainly makes for a fun time. I've never met a joke I didn't like . . . again and again and again. Keep up the good work, Tommy!
Barbara

P.S. Well, after trying so hard to get my little brain to cough up the information regarding the cleaners I mentioned and, of course, giving up, I just remembered it: Scottsboro Cleaners. This was the one next- door to Zesto. There was also one with the same name located downtown -- across from the old Courthouse. Barbara
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Terry L. Vandiver

March 12, 1946 - Aug. 15, 2001

    We were saddened to learn this week of the death of one of our own - Terry Vandiver. Terry was a member of the Class of 1964. Many of us were friends with Terry and will miss his company.   The above greeting was made by Terry in my 1964 Yearbook. The following was printed in the August 16, 2001 issue of The Huntsville Times.

   Terry Lee Vandiver of Hampton Cove, a U.S. Army Missile Command chief, died Wednesday. He was 55.
    Mr. Vandiver worked in the Composites and Structures Division of the Research Development and Engineering Center at MICOM. He was past president of the University of Alabama in Huntsville Alumni Association.
    Survivors include his wife, Elain Vandiver; two daughters, Melissa Vandiver of Atlanta and Michelle Goddard of Meridianville; and one son, David Vandiver of Auburn.
    Visitation will be today from 5 to 7 p.m. at Laughlin Service Funeral Home. The funeral will be Friday at noon at Laughlin with Gary Bradley officiating. Burial will be in Maple Hill Cemetery.

    If you want to leave your own memories of Terry then please click on the
button at the top right of this page and go to the Class of 1964.
Leave Comments About the Web Site or Notes for your Classmates.
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