Where, Oh Where Did Our Little Dip Dogs Go?
This weeks feature also started out as an e-mail. It stated as a note from Fred Sanders, one of our classmates, and a new guest Traveller reporter (congratulations Fred) with his wife-photographer Lynn. It's people like this that continue to give us interesting things to publish on our site. Here's how this developing story started:
Subject: Pictures of Zesto Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 07:50:50 -0700 From: "Fred Sanders" <fsanders@hiwaay.net>
Hi Tommy, Here's a bit of news for any of our classmates who may not be familiar with the "renovation" of the famous Zesto at 5 Points in Huntsville. Many a classmate had a DipDog there after school. It caught fire a few months ago, and the decision was finally made to completely tear it down and start over. My wife, Lynn, will provided pictures to you for distribution over the entire life of the rebuilding process. These two first shots are of the empty space with just the foundation being laid. It may also be of interest to you that Wade Russell sold Star Market, although it is still the same old grocery store, but now with a small pharmacy. They bought the small business directly to the east and expanded, knocking out the wall to make the pharmacy. There is a major renovation plan in work for the entire 5 Points area, although at present, its unclear exactly what it will entail. Mullins, the other greasy food icon of the mid-60's is flourishing on Andrew Jackson Way, having built another large addition for patrons. Of course we all remember both Five Points and Zesto. It's the second place I went to eat on my trips back to Huntsville. I even had a special writeup on it in A Million Tomorrows... (Memories of the Class of '64). I loved it. Here's what I had to say about those memorable places:
Five Points is a location in Huntsville where five different roads come into one intersection. Everyone in Huntsville thought that was real uncommon and therefore something special. It was one of the first places in town I can remember that had anything like a shopping center. There was a hardware store, a grocery store, a shoeshop and a drugstore that served real sodas and ice cream sundaes. Five Points was also the home of Zesto. That was a place in town famous for its fresh corn dogs, or Dip Dogs, as they were called. These things were not frozen, but hand-dipped as you ordered them and cooked while you waited. "Two Dip Dogs and a Coke" was the common order. Sometimes they were so hot when you bit into them that you had to take quick, deep breaths and dance around saying "hot, hot, hot" under your breath as you tried to keep from having to spit it out. You didn't want to waste a single bite. I remember the little walkup window on the side where you placed your order. It was close enough to the grease where they were cooking that the smoke sometimes billowed out of the opening. The place wasn't air conditioned then, so they just had a screen window that they slid open to take your money and give you your order. The menu was painted on the side of the building and the parking lot was covered in gravel instead of being paved. Five Points was down the main drag from Lee. Its one disadvantage was that Mullin's Cafe was between the school and it, so Zesto lost most of the afterschool crowd to the closer cafe. Had it been closer to Lee, it would probably have been the afterschool hang-out for most of the kids.
I went to the web to do a search just to see if there was anthing about Zesto that could be found in Cyberspace. Surprise! I found this review from the Huntsville Times and thought I'd share it with you.
Serving Five Points area for nearly five decades By Mike Kaylor The Huntsville Times Feb. 2, 1996
Here's hoping that my family doctor reads no further.
Not that the food at Zesto Drive-In is unhealthy. Nor is anything about this perennially popular neighborhood diner unclean.
Some people, though, might consider mine to be less-than-healthy eating habits.
Folks are forever marveling at me after learning my name. They tell me that they've read some of these restaurant reviews that I write.
``I would have expected you to weigh 300 pounds,'' they tell me. ``Are you really eating all of that food you write about?''
The answer: Yes, I am.
Take Monday lunch, for example. I walked into Zesto after realizing that we'd never really reviewed its food. A story in this space in 1982 mentioned the popularity of the dip dogs and Zesto burgers, but actually featured its long-time owner, the late Houston Goodson.
So I ordered some of my favorites: a corn dog (officially known here as a "dip dog"), a Zesto burger, onion rings, a bowl of chili and a vanilla milkshake. Not many people spend $7.29 for lunch at Zesto, but I am the exception.
``I'll bet you're not sure I can eat all of this,'' I challenged the waitress.
``Yes, I am,'' she replied.
In five minutes, the food was waiting for me on the counter. I had found a cozy booth in the corner.
I was most curious about the chili, which I'd never tried before. My wife had made some the previous day of the ultra hot style that we both prefer. I knew not to expect too much zest at the Zesto.
The chili surprised me. True, it was not spicy hot, but it was a thick tomato-style mixture that was much better than the hot dog chili many diners serve in bowls. This would have been good on wieners, but you'd have to eat them with a fork.
The Zesto burger is a phenomenon unique to this diner. It is prepared much like a corn dog -- ground beef mixed with onions on a stick, then battered and fried.
Don't knock it until you've tried it. Dip it in mustard.
And, ah, the dip dog. No one makes a corn dog like Zesto. In fact, few diners make them from scratch. Again, mustard is a requirement.
Battering on the french fried onion rings was as delightfully light as the dip dog's was thick. These might be better called tempura onion rings.
The milkshake to wash it all down was just to emphasize the true foundation of Zesto. During the late 1940s, a local businessman named Roy Jones bought a Zesto's ice cream franchise and opened the business.
Mr. Goodson bought it in 1951 and added a grill for cooking sandwiches. But he said in 1982 that the drive-in when he bought it was already serving corn dogs called ``quickie dogs'' and dipped beef sticks called ``turtle burgers.''
The Huntsville city directory for 1953 calls Zesto Drive-In a ``frozen custard'' business. About that time, Goodson devised his own batter and named his new products ``dip dogs'' and ``Zesto burgers.''
Goodson also was a Huntsville city councilman for three terms during the 1950s and '60s and ran Goodson's Variety Store next door, so in the early '70s he decided to sell the diner. Earl Noe, a traveling coffee salesman from Knoxville, moved here and bought Zesto.
Meanwhile, Louise Shenefield had worked for Goodson and continued there during Noe's ownership. After leaving several times, she is back today, cooking from her own corn bread and pinto bean recipes. Noe in 1982 called her his ``right arm,'' and today's owner Jim Rigby uses the same words.
About six months ago, Zesto began serving breakfast.
Each day features a special, and many of them are quite unusual. For example, Wednesday featured "scrambled dog," which Mrs. Shenefield explained is three hot dogs split and grilled, then served as an open-faced sandwich, smothered with chili and slaw. That with fries is $2.99.
The hamburger steak plate is the most expensive item at $3.95, and a chili dog is 89 cents. And this is still an ice cream parlor, too. The milkshakes in $1.85 and $2.30 sizes are very good.
Breakfast is especially reasonable. Two eggs with bacon, two biscuits, gravy and coffee cost $2.97 with tax. And customers can get in and out in little more than 15 minutes.
During Monday's visit, an established Realtor and popular Episcopalian Sunday school teacher was dining at Zesto.
``Write something about Zesto,'' she said after recognizing me. ``It's still the best place in town.''
Restaurant Name: Zesto Drive-In Address: 720 Pratt Avenue NE Restaurant Location: Huntsville Cuisine Type: Fast food
We will watch with anxiety and mouth-watering lips to see that an old institution of our youth returns with the same appeal it has always had in our memories. Of course we don't have to fear too much. After all, Mullins not only moved, but grew in the process, and they have remained pretty much the same. Fred, we are counting on you and Lynn to keep us posted on the reconstruction. We don't want to loose this part of our past. I need some of you to help out with this project. Does anyone have a photo of them or anyone else taken back in high school at Zesto? If so, would you share it with us.
Y2K Reunion Videos Are Here
Subject: Reunion Videos Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:30:56 EDT From: Napjr@aol.com Tommy, Hope you are doing well, the re-vamped web page looks great! Would you please post a message that those who ordered and have not received their reunion videos should e-mail me with their correct mailing address, and we will get them right out. We have sent all we know of that we have the addresses on. Thanks for your help! Keep up the good work! Niles
From Our Mailbag
Subject: The Virus! Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:27:50 -0500 From: "Jim Mcbride" <jmcbridemail@yahoo.com> Man, was I surprised when I returned from visiting my Dad in Huntsville and checked the old Lee High web site....Thank you for the kind words and for sharing Tammy's story with everyone. The virus is no longer a part of my life. How embarrassing that was for me. I thought I could never attend another class reunion. Thanks for the cure. I actually checked for a virus, but, my virus scan was woefully outdated and it bit me hard. I now have an updated virus scan and will be very careful in the future. Funny how things work out sometimes. I have heard from people I probably wouldn't have heard from otherwise, because they received a strange e-mail from me. You sure know how to make lemonade from a bunch of lemons.
Jim
Barbara Wilkerson Donnelly Sunday, 7/29/01, 8:01 AM From: Anderson, SC E-mail: barbdonn13@aol.com Year of Graduation: 1964 Hey, Tommy! Site looks great!!!! Just received the CD and book -- many thanks. I really enjoyed the article on Jim McBride and have heard the song, which is wonderful. Ed thinks he worked with Jim at Winn-Dixie during high school. That would have been our senior year, because Eddie was one of the "kiddies" (as Terry Preston says!) of the class of '65, and he moved to Huntsville his junior year. I've really enjoyed communicating with some of the old gang, and a few I never knew very well while at LHS. Hope to hear from more of you guys. I will continue to check in on Sundays -- look forward to seeing who else has turned up.
Subject: Precious Memories Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:21:46 -0700 From: "Terry 'Moses' Preston" <mosespreston@earthlink.net>
Tommy: I'm sorry that you lost all of the previous guest book entries. You are doing a tremendous job with the Lee High Alumni web page, and we all appreciate it. I enjoyed the article on my friend Jim McBride (right fielder on the 1961 Madison County Champion and undefeated Lee Jr. High Generals baseball team). Just for the record, the starting lineup for that great undefeated team (that Hub Myhand called his best ever) was as follows: Right Field: Jim McBride Center Field: Richard Lyons Left Field: Connie Mullins Third Base: Don Cornelius Shortstop: Terry Preston Second Base: Terry Davis First Base: Walter Thomas Catcher: Joe Barron Pitchers: Glenn Wallace, Bill Whyte, Ray Walker, Jackie Pedigo
Lee's first high school football team (also 1961) was also undefeated, going 6-0 our first year. Billy Byrom scored the first touchdown in Lee High history on a pass from Don Cornelius in the East end zone at Goldsmith-Schiffman field, and we won that first ever game 7-0 over East Limestone. I met the East Limestone coach a few years later and he confided that they shut us down after that by using a 6-3-2-1 defense (12 men on the field!) for the rest of the game, and they got away with it!! Those teams didn't just have starting players from the older class of 1964, but from the "kiddy" classes of 1965 & 1966 too, and they were terrific athletes! Ah, precious memories! Keep up the good work Tommy. See ya at the next reunion.
Terry "Moses" Preston Subject: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 14:58:11 -0500 From: "Robert Alverson" <BobAlverson@peoplepc.com>
Great write up on Jim McBride. Jim and I go back to elementary school. In fact we grew up about a block apart on Rison Avenue by the old ditch. I appreciate the work you do on the web site for 64, 64 & 66. Keep up the good work.
Bob Alverson '65
(Editor's Note: I also lived on Rison Avenue when I first started to School and went to Rison for the first grade. I do remember the ditch too. We played a type of "Pooh Sticks" game there. I moved before school was out but rode the bus from West Huntsville to Rison each morning and home each afternoon until that year was over. Then I moved to East Clinton and went there from the second through sixth grade at East Clinton Elementary school. Dianne Hughey was in class with me there.)
Subject: Just a little note to you!!! Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:26:31 -0500 From: Escoe Beatty <bebeatty@bellsouth.net> I don't get the chance to play with the web often...it takes so much time and I have no self control in knowing when to stop and get on with real life...soooo I don't take time to write very often! Just a thought....How many of us ever think of Jane Parks as we bang away on these Keyboards! I think she and a Mrs. Long (?) were the typing teachers. PS Was that Craig Bannacke that painted the General on the wall?!?!
Escoe
Subject: Re: General Painting Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:24:40 -0400 From: "Pat Hollenbeck" <phollen@chartertn.net>
Hi, you have a question on the website about who painted the Lee General in the gym. You probably already know the answer, but in case you don't it was Bob Bertoldi.
Subject: Painting in gym Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:58:03 -0500 From: Nancy <nsherrod@texas.net>
Tommy, I believe the painting was done by Bob Bertoldie. He was very talented in that respect. I think my brother, Lamar Taylor, can give you more info if you contact him. You are doing an excellent job. Nancy Taylor Sherrod '64'
Subject: Re: LHS 64-65-66 Update is Ready to View Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:59:52 EDT From: BROCK06@aol.com
Just a note to tell you how very much we all appreciate the hard work you do on the site. I'm sure at times it's a thankless job. Don't spend too much time worrying about the virus thing, it happens. Thanks again for keeping all of connected to our past.
Ann (Atcherson) Brockington
Subject: 65 & 66 yearbooks Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:22:38 -0500 From: Cheryl Massey <cherylmassey@home.com>
Tommy, I would be happy to loan you my yearbooks. Let me know how and where you want them sent....I have been trying to print out the order form from the Souvenir Shop, but have been unsuccessful. Any suggestions?
Cherri Polly Massey
(Editor's Note: Homestead changed something on their web hosting software in the last few weeks that is keeping folks from printing from the screen the way they did in the past. I am working on a solution, but have found that if you do a page preview before you pint it might work better.)
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